From Kenneth Minogue's article on Idealism and the EU
All the evil, wicked, mean and nasty things that Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, Thomas Payne and others wrote about King George III were directed at a “tyrant” who taxed the colonists at the excruciating rate of about three percent. Moreover, there was no Royal Department of Education, Environmental Protection Ministry or war on drugs in those days.
The result of the rebellion of 1776 was a governmental framework that allowed for greater freedom, productivity, creativity, charity and many other good things than any other society in human history.
And yet millions of Americans are willing to give what remains of this freedom away. Left-wingers are willing to give it away over global warming, which is based on a lot of junk science. Right-wingers are willing to give it away over terrorism, an “enemy” that does not even control the government of Afghanistan and a threat that is totally overblown. Mencken was so right when he stated that:
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”
To summarize, there are lots of powerful and well-positioned people who want to deprive Americans of their liberty, and there are millions of Americans who are more than willing to relinquish it. Before they give it up – even temporarily – I would invite them to consider another people who gave up their freedom in 1933 and got it back in 1945. They were the people of Germany. We all know what happened in the interim. Had more Germans been more vocal earlier, Hitler would have been out of power in 1934 and most people never would have heard of him.
We face a similar threat now with the advent of the Lisbon Treaty.
Once that is ratified, which it will be despite the Irish Vote which will be most likely be rigged then our sovereignty is gone forever.
I'm not much in the mood for making predictions but one thing has been worrying me.
What if ratifying the Lisbon treaty, means that Westminster is wound down.
Its scaring the living bloody daylights out of me but thats my personal view.
If you want to make a difference? Join us and help get rid of this threat to our liberty and our happiness.
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Many people, who consider themselves to be rational, refuse to believe that their government could be embarked on so heinous a plan - either by design or through stupidity.
I also fear that the EuroManiacs will rig the Irish vote.
Vote rigging is not alien to these shores and as we have seen, the real culprits - those at the top - get away with it.
In pedantry, the real tipping point in 1776 was not taxation alone but the ability for British soldiers to write out their own warrants to enter homes. Yes, in search of "tax evasion" in the Stamp Duty (mongst other things), but it was the fact that Colonists had less rights than those back in England.
Americans did try to enshrine the freedoms we have. It might be why they have now managed to hold on to more of them.
But you are right, the tyrant attacked them then and now we have a tyrant in the EU and a Gauleiter in the form of Gordon Brown (though I think Mandy will become the real deal).
I think Mandy is the real deal Even if the Cons get in he wont go
Osborne and Nat Rothschild and Meddlesome.
What twoddle. The Lisbon Treaty is the first EU treaty that explicitly states how members can leave the EU. If we are free to leave how do we loose our sovereignty?
Also the Passerelle clause requires unanimity in order to pass further powers to the EU. If we don’t want closer integration then make sure you vote for a government that will veto further integration in the Council of Ministers. The democratisation of an intergovernmental institution with many disparate members is a slow process but we’ve come a long way from appointed High Authorities and unaccountable Commissioners; the Lisbon Treaty is another step in the process of extending co-decision to the European Parliament (a democratically elected body) and executive power to the Council of Ministers/European Council (Heads of State). As for the Irish, they play the game - vote no to constitutional reform in order to get a better deal within the EU. In case you hadn't noticed most continental Europeans don't want to create an undemocratic EU superstate and have no desire to lose their national identities. As for the UK, the majority of voters chose pro-EU parties at the Euro Elections – they see the benefits of membership and have no intention of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. LPUK’s anti-Europeanism is misguided and damaging. We should be putting forward a vision of what a minarchist EU would look like – democratic, federal and restricted to cross border competences.
twaddle doesn't have an O in it
And to lose something doesnt have a double o either.
@Henry
The late hour may have had something to do with my tardy punctuation/grammar etc but I hope it did not distract from the main argument which I hope you would like comment on - or are you accepting LPUK's UKIP stance at face value?
A minarchist EU isn't on the table. The progressive approach is always to increase the power of higher authority while weakening lower authority- as with, say, local councils who now are simply a lower level of central government, enacting central government.
Likewise the job of provincial governments like Westminster in the EU is to enact central EU directives. They are allowed to make laws as well of course- the more laws the better- but the model is power at the top, technocratic rather than democratic power, and subservience at the bottom.
The Westminster "parliament" will remain, but without any real power, just as local councils remain in place. We will continue to be allowed the futile ritual of electing MPs and provincial governors. But the decision making in the new world is by transnational elites on a corporatist model, and merely enacted by bureaucrats and elected representatives. In other words, we are allowed to choose our tormentors from a narrow range of candidates, but not the rules they torment us with.
The public accept this because the transnationalists are, while stupid in policy terms, rather clever and well organised in structural and organisational terms and, rather than be overtly tyrannical, have made quite a success of keeping a veneer of reasonableness in place. We waste our time hating provincial politicians like Brown, while the grand project rolls relentlessly onwards.
The EU is run by unelected people, and they dictate terms to us. I am not in favour of someone who I never voted in telling me what to do. Especially when I have a vote.
I may aswell live in an absolute monarchy if I wish to permit that to happen.
As it is, it is an unelected oligarchy supported by the Banks and the people who own those banks.
The Banks have the power because the whole of the EU, is in debt to the banks.
This is why our policies and laws and government are being discussed over the dinner table in Corfu rather than in Westminster.
I rest my case.
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