The LPUK is one of the most extreme political parties I have ever come across. Here are some of its aims:
1). Abolish the NHS. Introduce measures to achieve this aim, such as reducing funding year by year.
2.) Free trade economic policy so that people in the Third world working for pitifully low sweatshop wages can put British workers out of a job.
3.) Legalise all drugs, hard and soft. Heroin to be available on the high street. Crack cocaine can come out of a vending machine.
4.) Completely open borders. Unlimited immigration. Massive social unrest and conflict.
5.) LPUK expects individuals to make their own provision for a future pension. Eventual scrapping of state pension. Let the elderly poor starve.
Every single one of these aims is reason enough not to vote for such a bunch.
This from 'Caroline' a far left BNP supporter from Leeds on the British Democracy Forum
A Libertarian Party spokesman said " We are still to formulate our policies on Baby Eating, but hope to release a draft policy in the next few weeks"
And there is a free poster too-
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With enemies like these, who needs friends!
The BNP is almost our polar opposite.
They are on ideological thin ice, we stand on solid ground bursting with riches.
Seriously though, if you're truly libertarian, like me, then you should at least be against any state laws prohibiting vending machines from selling the good stuff... :)
Dominic,
A vending machine does not care who it sells to. Our removal of prohibition of sale applies to adults, not children. It will still be an offence to sell to children, for a vendor (and vending machine) is not in loco parentis.
Common sense would suggest that such products would initially be sold via pharmacies and similar outlets.
You can't defend against the insane - you can only pity them, lock them up to protect them from themselves and do your best to care from them with as much love as you can muster in the circumstances.
It should be a fairly simple matter to support competing age verification services in a modern vending machine, e.g. via the credit card.
Addiction verification would be harder... perhaps some kind of internet pre-ordering system so you have to wait and cannot buy on impulse, and periodic spot checking by humans for visible signs of addiction.
Would criminal negligence cover abuses by unscrupulous vending machine operators Tim?
Excellent.
If the BNP feel the need to attack us, then they must fear us.
Let us hope for attacks from the Tories, Labour, Lib Dems, UKIP and Greens in due course.
That's quite made my day.
Simon,
Valid points. If machines can sell to adults only, then the issue changes. As for the point of law, I am not qualified to answer, but it does not seem an unreasonable assertion for you to make.
Snowolf - Agreed.
How refreshing to see the BNP correctly referred to as the extreme left.
I've always thought that selling LPUK as the polar opposite of the BNP to be quite an effective campaigning strategy.
When friends or family ask me why I like the libertarian ideals, it's a convenient simplification to say "because it's the opposite of the BNP".
When the BNP were on QT, I was tempted to suggest that the LPUK should campaign outside the BBC. I would love to see the confusion that would develop by journalists when a far right party simultanesously:
- opposes the BNP
- advocate their right to free speech
- criticises the anti-fascist league for being fascist
- and objects to the state run media company that was hosting it.
Lots of head scratching but head scratching would be a start...
I take it this is what is being circulated against the LPUK?
Interesting....
This is all my fault guys. I have been giving the BNP some "feedback" on that forum of late.
Hence the fevered attacks now.
I'm lovin it.
Wait, wait, wait!
The whole point of this movement is to get gov'ment out of our lives, both socially and economically. Prohibiting the sale of any product for personal use, be it Batman comics or hard drugs, is 100% unlibertarian, period. Age, especially, must not a factor, as the child/adult distinction just another arbitrary, statist convention that ought to be abolished along with all the rest.
Tim, you say that heroin would "initially" be sold through pharmacies? What does "initially" mean? Does LPUK have plans to legalize further, at some later stage?
I believe there are two possible answers:
A. No, and if no, then you are hardly libertarian.
B. Yes, and if yes, then the BNP are correct in their attack.
A better response to the "you want allow the sale of drugs to kids" charge, would be "you don't?"
Of course that would never get you elected...
Dominic,
To think age is not a factor is to be irresponsible, dogmatic and putting theory and ideology before common sense. As a parent, I do not feel that a machine or a vendor is the best judge of what my children can and cannot consume just as much as I do not think the State is.
I shall not get into a "I am more libertarian than yeeeow" argument, especially when we are talking about the logistics of implementing policy.
You also present a false dichotomy. It is not a yes/no based upon your framing.
p.s. "initially" means...initially.
As in, to start with. To think "initially" means it will definitely stay that way or definitely revert is perverse.
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